NFLPA Propaganda: You Can’t Make This Stuff Up!

Sep 24, 2011


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EDITOR’S NOTE:
This first e-mail was just added on Saturday afternoon:

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From: Jim McFarland
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:45 PM
To: Mark Washington

Subject: Update on Legacy (Fund) Benefit (Apparently No Hobson’s Choice)
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Dear Mark et al.
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Although I have not heard directly from the NFLPA about the issue of whether pre-93 former (retired) players will be faced with a Hobson’s choice of either taking their Bert Bell pensions early to qualify for the legacy (fund) benefit, or waiting until 65 to maximize their Bert Bell pension monthly benefit, but delay receiving any legacy (fund) benefit until age 65, I have heard indirectly from other retired players that the NFL is proposing that such players will have their legacy benefit actuarially increased if they wait to take their Bert Bell pensions.
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In our January negotiations before the NFLPA decertified, the NFL had made the proposal that the legacy fund payments would only go to retired players in “pay status” who were already receiving their pensions. Under that proposal, indeed there would apparently have been a Hobson’s choice as described in my e-mail below.
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The NFL representatives have apparently assured retired players under their current proposals as follows:
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“There will be no “Hobson’s choice”. Players who choose to delay their retirement or are delaying their retirement after age 55 through age 64 will have the Legacy amount increase actuarially (from August 4, 2011) to the date they choose to take retirement.
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Thus, it appears that for pre-93 former (retired) players who have not yet taken their Bert Bell pensions, such players will not receive legacy (fund) benefit until they take their Bert Bell pensions, but that the amounts of their legacy (fund) payments will be actuarially increased at the time they take their Bert Bell pensions.
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I hope and trust that this new information from the NFL is accurate and will be implemented if the Legacy (Fund) Benefit negotiations continue to proceed as they have proceeded since August 4, 2011.
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Best Regards,
Jim McFarland
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And even more drivel from the NFLPA beginning with some serious questions from Jim McFarland, non-voting retired players rep with the PA. The e-mails below are posted starting with the most recent:
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From: Jim McFarland
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:09 AM
To: Mark Washington
Subject: Legacy Benefit – Isn’t This A Misprint?
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Dear Mark,
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Unfortunately, No! I don’t think this is a misprint in the e-mail below, Mark.
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The NFL has consistently proposed paying players legacy benefits only if they have taken their pensions. Dennis Curran, the NFL benefits lawyer, even said in one meeting that a retired player will just have to make a choice by calculating whether it is better to wait until 65 to take the Bert Bell pension and thereby increased pension benefits along with the delayed legacy benefit, or to take the Bert Bell pension immediately at a reduced monthly amount in order to receive the legacy benefit right away. This is the LOSE/LOSE dilemma that I mentioned in one of my prior e-mails.
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If you wait until 65 to take a higher Bert Bell pension amount, you LOSE part of the Legacy Benefit by having to delay receiving the Legacy Benefit until age 65. If you take your Bert Bell pension right away, you get your Legacy Benefit right away but you LOSE the increase in the Bert Bell Pension.
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For example, for a now 55-year old 5-year vested pre-93 player whose played from 1982 to 1986 inclusive who has not taken his Bert Bell pension, he would be faced with a Hobson’s (NO WIN) Choice. He could take his Bert Bell pension right now at age 55 and start receiving approximately $570 per month (5 X $114) in legacy benefits but only receive $1,275 per month (5 X $255) in Bert Bell pension. Or, he could wait until 65 to take his increased Bert Bell pension at $3,340.50 per month ($1,275 X 262%). But by waiting 10 years he would LOSE $68,400 ($570/mo. X 12 mo. X 10 years) in legacy benefits.
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This point dramatizes the whole Legacy Fund misrepresentation. It was originally designed to be a Legacy Fund for pre-93 players only, not a Legacy Benefit. And, now that it is categorized as a Legacy Benefit, we might just as well have started with the concept of raising the Bert Bell pension like Gene Upshaw did in 2006 since the Legacy (Fund) Benefit is now being treated like a supplemental Bert Bell pension addition. In fact, for former (retired) players who wait to take their pensions at age 65, a $50 per month increase to $250 or $255 per credited season at age 55 like Upshaw provided in 2006 calculates into a $131 per month increase (262% x $50) in pension if a former (retired) player waits until 65 to take his pension. Thus, for those former players deferring their pension to age 65, they would be better off receiving another $50 per month increase to $300 or $305 per month per credited season at age 55 ($131 per month increase at age 65) than the current NFLPA proposed $114 per credited season increase with the Legacy Benefit.
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Hope this explanation makes sense.
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Best Regards,
Jim McFarland
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From: Mark Washington
To: Jim McFarland; Ray Schoenke
Sent: Tue, Sep 20, 2011 6:26 am
Subject: Isn’t This A Misprint?

CBS: Commissioner Convenes “Historic Meeting” with Retired Players

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Posted on NFLCommunications.com September 18, 2011
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The NFL Today’s Charley Casserly reported today on the CBS pre-game show that Commissioner Roger Goodell held a “historic meeting” this past week with retired players to discuss the distribution of the $620 million Legacy Fund created by the league’s new collective bargaining agreement.
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Casserly reported that Pro Football Hall of Famers Carl Eller (Retired Players Association), Willie Lanier (Hall of Fame Foundation) and Ron Mix (Hall of Fame Foundation) attended the meeting Thursday with Bruce Laird (Fourth and Goal) and George Martin (NFL Alumni Association). The views of Mike Ditka (Gridiron Greats) were expressed by the commissioner who had met with Ditka one-on-one earlier in the month on the same issue.
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Commissioner Goodell and Jeff Pash, the NFL’s general counsel, will meet next with NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith and the union to work toward a final agreement on how to distribute the fund.
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The additional dispersal of money to approximately 2,500 players who played in the league before 1993 and “who already receive an NFL pension” will begin shortly after that agreement is reached.
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From: Harrison, Nolan
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:39 PM
Subject: Still Nothing on the Legacy Benefit Front from the NFL
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Leadership,
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It’s midweek and we still have heard nothing from the NFL in terms of a counter proposal to our now five weeks old proposal on the Legacy Benefit. As you know from my e-mail on Monday, we were not able to attend their meeting in New York because of the lawsuit against us, but the word is they received the information that they needed, information they should have had months ago, information that we had already gleaned from our membership, board, and other former players.
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I don’t want to speculate as to the reason why there is such a long delay and blatant disregard for the players who earned this Legacy Benefit. But we wanted to make sure we kept you up to date.
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Best regards,
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Nolan Harrison III
Senior Director
Former Player Services
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EDITOR’S NOTE: So here’s an interesting side note. When the NFLPA was “decertified” and the retired players had already filed their suit against the NFL as well as the individual players representing the active players, they had no problem sending in their representatives, Nolan Harrison III and Jim McFarland, to join our first meeting in Minneapolis MN last spring. All of the other retired players at that meeting were convinced that Nolan Harrison III was present for no other purpose other than to spy on what retired players really wanted to discuss at a real negotiating table and report it back to Smith & Co. And during that entire lock-out period, they continued to emphasize that they could NOT negotiate on behalf of retired (or active) players because they weren’t legally a Union. But miraculously – within days of agreeing to the new CBA – they claimed to have already negotiated and finalized all retirees’ benefits and this new Legacy Fund. Then the retirees file a new lawsuit and suddenly the PA refuses to show up to listen to what the retirees really need as real improvements for their disability and pension benefits “because of the lawsuit against us.”
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Really?!!

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4 Responses so far | Have Your Say!

  1. Dave Edwards
    September 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am #

    Dave Edwards

    I would just like to know if anything was done for the players who took retirement at 45. I’ve gotten 158 bucks a month for 10 years.

    Dave Edwards
    Dallas Cowboys
    1962 – 1975

  2. Courtney Perrin
    September 25th, 2011 at 10:08 am #

    Benny Perrin

    I think we should all go to Washington and picket with signs that show how much retirement pension each of you gets, your injuries, years played etc.

    Courtney Perrin
    Wife of Benny Perrin
    St. Louis Cardinals
    1982-1985

  3. Judson Flint
    October 25th, 2011 at 7:15 am #

    Judson Flint

    $620 million divided by 2500 players = $248,000 divided by 10 years = $24,800 divided by 12 = $2,066.70 a month per player for ten years.

    Everyone (pre-1993′s) should get the same amount because that’s what the fund is for. To boost EVERYONE’S pension by $2,000 as the NFL owners had proposed. But once again, our UNION wants to provide a benefit that will allow them to do as the previous Executive Director of the UNION did: To divert funds elsewhere.

    Shame on all of YOU!

    Judson Flint
    Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills
    1980 – 1983

  4. Henry Bradley
    October 27th, 2011 at 9:20 am #

    Henry Bradley

    I been saying the same thing that Courtney Perrin suggests we do. I say chain ourselves to the building, do hunger strikes and other things to show we are serious.

    Henry Bradley
    Cleveland Browns
    1979 – 1983

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