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	<title>Comments on: A Simple Lesson in Civics</title>
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		<title>By: Larry Kaminski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Kaminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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Bob:

Your comments are passionate and will hopefully be seen by the NFL Gods for what it represents. This recent action and the Henderson letter are just filled with elitism and tries to mocks all of us. You know, I don&#039;t think any of us just fell off the turnip truck.

Keep the faith, men.

Larry Kaminski
Denver Broncos
1966-1973</description>
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Bob:</p>
<p>Your comments are passionate and will hopefully be seen by the NFL Gods for what it represents. This recent action and the Henderson letter are just filled with elitism and tries to mocks all of us. You know, I don&#8217;t think any of us just fell off the turnip truck.</p>
<p>Keep the faith, men.</p>
<p>Larry Kaminski<br />
Denver Broncos<br />
1966-1973</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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Where did this guy come from? Who decided he would represent retired players? I don&#039;t think Lou has ever belonged to the NFL Alumni because he never felt welcome and there were mostly non-NFL player members at the meetings.

And what happened to the 4th &amp; Goal merger with the NFL Alumni? Are the 4th and Goal people getting paid now? They denied any money was involved in this proposal. Is the NFLPA now merging with the NFL Alumni? What the heck is going on?

Kathy Smith
for Lucious</description>
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Where did this guy come from? Who decided he would represent retired players? I don&#8217;t think Lou has ever belonged to the NFL Alumni because he never felt welcome and there were mostly non-NFL player members at the meetings.</p>
<p>And what happened to the 4th &#038; Goal merger with the NFL Alumni? Are the 4th and Goal people getting paid now? They denied any money was involved in this proposal. Is the NFLPA now merging with the NFL Alumni? What the heck is going on?</p>
<p>Kathy Smith<br />
for Lucious</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Pear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Is Frank Krauser &lt;strong&gt;still&lt;/strong&gt; on the NFL Alumni payroll?

Does he still have a position with the NFL Alumni or the NFL?

What about Frank&#039;s cigar budget?

Under Frank Krauser&#039;s leadership (and $200,000 paycheck plus benefits), their 2005 tax records showed that the NFL Alumni grossed $3,700,000 that year and a whopping $700 was allocated to a retired player in dire need. Thanks, Frank!

Regards,
Dave &amp; Heidi Pear</description>
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Is Frank Krauser <strong>still</strong> on the NFL Alumni payroll?</p>
<p>Does he still have a position with the NFL Alumni or the NFL?</p>
<p>What about Frank&#8217;s cigar budget?</p>
<p>Under Frank Krauser&#8217;s leadership (and $200,000 paycheck plus benefits), their 2005 tax records showed that the NFL Alumni grossed $3,700,000 that year and a whopping $700 was allocated to a retired player in dire need. Thanks, Frank!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Dave &#038; Heidi Pear</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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There always seems to be another trick up their sleeve.

This Alumni announcement by Roger Goodell smacks of old Slavery Plantation Politics. There are other political terms that describe systems in which the &quot;BOSSES&quot; and &quot;&lt;em&gt;Mr. Charlies&lt;/em&gt;&quot; take it upon themselves to tell us who is going to lead and represent us. Now Roger is &lt;strong&gt;TELLING&lt;/strong&gt; us that the Alumni is going to be &quot;The Single Group&quot; that represents us and that perhaps that they are the only Group that the NFL is willing to talk too. You have got to be kidding me! He has to be completely out of his mind. We&#039;re old but we&#039;re not stupid, Roger - and I&#039;m offended by your trickery and attempt at sleight-of-hand here.

Heck! Only a few of us actually belong to the Owner-owned and -funded NFL Alumni, and I, along with many others, don&#039;t even trust the Group to look out for anything much more than a few high profile Retired Players and some select charities and expense accounts.

We &lt;strong&gt;ARE&lt;/strong&gt; making progress in our fight and they had to come up with some way to try to get control of us again. Roger&#039;s pitiful attempt to minimize those of us in the Independent Movement in his press release neglected to tell you that we have 350,000+ hits per month here on the Independent Dave Pear site where we keep all of you posted. That&#039;s probably more than they get and we don&#039;t have &lt;strong&gt;ANY&lt;/strong&gt; funding, except what we scrape up individually each week to keep afloat. He also neglected to tell you that we are - without any funding - putting together a team of Nationally-known Doctors who are recognized as leaders in their areas of practice so we can expose both the NFL and the NFLPA in their lying ways about the many Health and Medical issues that they have continued to deny.

Mr. Martin is a former Friend, Student and Disciple of Gene Upshaw, and recently raised a fair amount of money in his walk across the country for some 9/11 Groups but I don&#039;t believe that any of our men in need will get a nickel of that money.

The NFL has the finances to make this whole thing go away instantly but they continue to resist giving up just a buck or two out of their fat wallets. 1 - 3% of their &quot;&lt;strong&gt;TRUE Gross Gross&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; paid into a fund for ten (10) years would settle everything for us in these last years of our lives. We would never even have to touch the principle in the fund.

In spite of what some may think, we&#039;re not unintelligent men. &lt;strong&gt;WE&lt;/strong&gt; are the men who took the field, &lt;strong&gt;WE&lt;/strong&gt; are the ones that 60,000 fans stood and cheered for and &lt;strong&gt;WE&lt;/strong&gt; would be fools to stand at the back of the room now with our &quot;hats in our hands, heads bowed, begging for anything. I pray that &lt;strong&gt;YOU&lt;/strong&gt; will always remember that &lt;strong&gt;YOU&lt;/strong&gt; were the hero gladiator who stood in the Arena and that &lt;strong&gt;YOU&lt;/strong&gt; will continue to stand with us in the Independent Movement as we fight for all players both vested and non-vested. We believe that a man is entitled to benefits if he played just one year.

Bob Grant
Independent Retired Player Advocate</description>
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There always seems to be another trick up their sleeve.</p>
<p>This Alumni announcement by Roger Goodell smacks of old Slavery Plantation Politics. There are other political terms that describe systems in which the &#8220;BOSSES&#8221; and &#8220;<em>Mr. Charlies</em>&#8221; take it upon themselves to tell us who is going to lead and represent us. Now Roger is <strong>TELLING</strong> us that the Alumni is going to be &#8220;The Single Group&#8221; that represents us and that perhaps that they are the only Group that the NFL is willing to talk too. You have got to be kidding me! He has to be completely out of his mind. We&#8217;re old but we&#8217;re not stupid, Roger &#8211; and I&#8217;m offended by your trickery and attempt at sleight-of-hand here.</p>
<p>Heck! Only a few of us actually belong to the Owner-owned and -funded NFL Alumni, and I, along with many others, don&#8217;t even trust the Group to look out for anything much more than a few high profile Retired Players and some select charities and expense accounts.</p>
<p>We <strong>ARE</strong> making progress in our fight and they had to come up with some way to try to get control of us again. Roger&#8217;s pitiful attempt to minimize those of us in the Independent Movement in his press release neglected to tell you that we have 350,000+ hits per month here on the Independent Dave Pear site where we keep all of you posted. That&#8217;s probably more than they get and we don&#8217;t have <strong>ANY</strong> funding, except what we scrape up individually each week to keep afloat. He also neglected to tell you that we are &#8211; without any funding &#8211; putting together a team of Nationally-known Doctors who are recognized as leaders in their areas of practice so we can expose both the NFL and the NFLPA in their lying ways about the many Health and Medical issues that they have continued to deny.</p>
<p>Mr. Martin is a former Friend, Student and Disciple of Gene Upshaw, and recently raised a fair amount of money in his walk across the country for some 9/11 Groups but I don&#8217;t believe that any of our men in need will get a nickel of that money.</p>
<p>The NFL has the finances to make this whole thing go away instantly but they continue to resist giving up just a buck or two out of their fat wallets. 1 &#8211; 3% of their &#8220;<strong>TRUE Gross Gross</strong>&#8221; paid into a fund for ten (10) years would settle everything for us in these last years of our lives. We would never even have to touch the principle in the fund.</p>
<p>In spite of what some may think, we&#8217;re not unintelligent men. <strong>WE</strong> are the men who took the field, <strong>WE</strong> are the ones that 60,000 fans stood and cheered for and <strong>WE</strong> would be fools to stand at the back of the room now with our &#8220;hats in our hands, heads bowed, begging for anything. I pray that <strong>YOU</strong> will always remember that <strong>YOU</strong> were the hero gladiator who stood in the Arena and that <strong>YOU</strong> will continue to stand with us in the Independent Movement as we fight for all players both vested and non-vested. We believe that a man is entitled to benefits if he played just one year.</p>
<p>Bob Grant<br />
Independent Retired Player Advocate</p>
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